Brian: in what ways does pip change throughout this part of the book?
Kenner: He starts out as a scared orphan, and doesn't do much for himself, i.e. When he does stuff for the prisoner. Then he goes to the Satis house, and he was shy.
Brian: I agree he was a little shy at the beginning
Luke: I feel like he grew a connection with the prisoner like how he called him "my convict"
Brian: I agree, he seems to have believed he could be friend
Kenner: he could have just stayed home but he chose to go back and help him
Luke: but that was also driven by fear
Kenner: but the convict would have had no way to find him.
Brian: what is pumblechook's significance?
Luke: he got him invited to the Satis house
Brian: but he also got him cleaned up and ready for it and took care of pip. He seems to be more of a father figure than joe
Kenner: yeah because pip sees joe as more of a brother
Brian: plus pumblechook was a higher socia class than joe
Luke: yeah, because he was a merchant while joe was a blacksmith who was illiterate
Brian: what dilemma does pip have at the cemetery, and how is it dissolved
Luke: pip had to decide whether or not to help him
Kenner: out of fear he and his own will he did decide to help them
Luke: he feels like that is the only thing he can do
Kenner: he feels guilty for it later to (connected to later question)
Kenner: his image of his parents are based on their tombstones because he doesn't remember what they looked like. Also his sister is a mother figure for him so his sisterly relationship is ruined because instead of being a sister she has to be a mother
Brian: why do you think pip helps the police find them?
Luke and Kenner: he is afraid of getting in trouble
Brian: after giving the food and feeling guilty for it, do you think he would do it again?
Kenner: no, he wouldn't help him again because it was more trouble than it was worth and he felt guilty for it.
Luke: I think he would do it again because he is a bit of a selfless person who tries to help others.
Brian: I agree with luke too
Brian: what do you think is miss havishams goal by inviting pip over?
Luke: Because a man broke her heart by leaving her at the altar, she can get revenge on men by having Estelle break pips heart.
Brian: I don't think that's it because why wouldn't she do that to every boy, not just pip.
Kenner: but they didn't mention any other boys.
Brian: do you think maybe it was to help him at all?
Luke: well she didn't really help him in the end because she didn't raise his status and made him the blacksmith's apprentice
Brian: in what ways does Estella use her social status to assert herself over pip.
Luke: she always verbally torments him saying that she is superior to him because of the way he dresses and speaks
Brian: yes, and he said he couldn't do something and ms havisham makes him play with Estella. What was it?
Luke: I found it. "I can't play just now...it's so new here, and so strange, and so fine"
Brian: yeah. She makes fun of him for that too
Brian: what does miss havishman so to pip in front of her friends and why does she do it?
Luke: she humiliated him but I'm not sure why?
Kenner: didn't she parade him in front of them like a slum boy
Brian: yeah but why? Do you think she wanted to show superiority?
Luke: or maybe it's another way to break his heart
Brian: what could miss havisham symbolize/foreshadow?
Luke: well the house was like a prison. It was dark and unhappy with iron bars on the windows and it foreshadowed unhappiness and disappointment with what comes from the house.
Brian: in what ways does it act like a prison for pip
Luke: it doesn't help him go anywhere because he stays as a blacksmith's son
Brian: what do you think will happen between estella and picturing the rest of the novel?
Kenner: she is going to break his heart like we predicted
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