Discussion #4 Notes

Leader- Kenner
Note Taker- Brian

1. Who is the prisoner Pip rides with in the coach and how does it bring back his guilt?

Brian- He is a friend of the prisoner who helped Pip.

Luke- He talked to him in the bar previously.

Kenner- It reminded of the prisoner at the beginning of the book and made him feel bad

2. How does pip feel as he is going to see Estella and how does he feel when he actually sees her?

Luke: he was excited and confident when he was going to see her

Kenner: but then she treated him just as she always had and he went back to his awkward stumbly self.

3. What Pips spirits on his way back to London?

Brian: he felt bad about Estella and the tailor mocked him.

Luke: plus, he felt oppressed when Jaggers showed up

Kenner: then Jaggers fired orlick, but I don't think pip cared about it

4. In what ways is the narrator PIP more mature than character pip?

Kenner: whenever he talks the stuff he did, he is always feeling guilty for what he did by saying "God forgive me"

Brian: narrator pip has very high morals and he deeply cares about every and everyone's feelings and how he is affecting people's lives. Character pip says the first thing that comes to his mind and is often inconsiderate and selfish

5. How does mr. Wopsle represent pip?

Luke: he plays like a klutz but he eventually matures

Kenner: so that is basically like pips maturing

6. In what way is PIP's 21st birthday not expected to be?

Luke: in one way he hoped that Jaggers would tell him who his secret benefactor but he didn't

7. After pip turns 21 how does Jaggers show him respect?

Brian: he calls him Mr. pip

8. How does pip help Herbert and how does the show is maturity?

Kenner: pip acts as Herbert's anonymous benefactor.

Brian: he took his paycheck and helped Herbert get a job.

Luke: that's the first time he has helped someone

9. Wemmick is different and Jaeger's house then in his own house. What does Wemmick do that defines his two different sides?

10. Who is PIP secret benefactor? What is surprising about this?

(We ran out of time so I just wrote the last two questions)